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Jay Wright
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Coronavirus

Postby Jay Wright » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:52 pm

Anybody else thinking of cancelling their monthly meeting until there has been sufficient tests produced
and distributed and we know the extent of the outbreak?
There is fairly significant percentage of our members who would be considered "at risk" due to age and underlying conditions.
Hopefully overreacting, I'm also choosing to skip Vegas.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Elias French » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:31 pm

Jay,
Out of an abundance of caution we did cancel the San Francisco chapter meeting next week which is held at a local restaurant, just to be safe. Not too sure about what to do going forward though...
Take care everyone

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby hellsangle » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:27 am

Marin cancelled their March meeting . . .

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby SPMPLS » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:32 am

The California Spatial Reference Center will almost certainly cancel its spring meeting in La Jolla, which was scheduled for late May.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby m4man » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:15 am

What about the joint conference in Las Vegas?
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Administrator » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:13 pm

APLS-CLSA-NALS Conference Attendees & Members:

Our top priority is the well-being of our conference attendees. We recognize and understand you may have concerns about the coronavirus; therefore, we want to provide an update on what we are doing to provide a safe environment.

We are closely monitoring the latest developments and following the guidance from CDC in regard to group gatherings. Based on this, we are taking several actions to help you feel confident about your health and safety while you are at the Conference.

The Luxor Hotel has taken comprehensive steps to prepare for all potential health and safety risks and have worked to ensure the resort is prepared for any potential impacts of the virus. This includes reinforced cleaning and disinfecting procedures which will focus on faucets, toilet flush levers, doorknobs and locks, desks and table surfaces, hangers, safes, light/air switches, tv remotes, radio controls and telephones. Additional hand sanitizer stations will be added in public areas such as entrances, exits, bathrooms, elevator landings, lobbies, and show rooms.

The Conference will have additional hand sanitizers available at the conference registration desk and signage will be displayed encouraging rigorous hygiene and the suggestion for an “elbow bump” instead of a hand shake.

We hope that these measures give you confidence that we are taking the necessary precautions in this evolving situation. We look forward to a great conference!

Regards,
APLS-CLSA-NALS Conference Committee

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Edward M Reading » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:02 pm

No way they hold this.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Peter Ehlert » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:07 pm

I suspect it is a financial decision... too late to cancel without significant loss, continue and they will not loose the vendor's support.
The conference used to be the primary source of income for CLSA, probably still is.
This is gonna hurt.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby PLS7393 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:54 pm

I listen to the news and understand the issues about this new flu, that's all it is. Thanks to the news, they have put the fear factor into the majority of you.
This should be a wake up call to each and every one of you to practice better hygiene.
I was in Las Vegas two weeks ago, went to a concert, the NASCAR race with 80,000 fans, and made contact with a lot of people, and I'm fine.

CLSA and other organizations hold their annual conference every year during the flu season, and we attend.
Common sense says if your sick, please stay home because at this time I still plan to attend.
See you in Las Vegas!
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Robert Martin » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:31 pm

JP Sears always has an interesting take on these issues:

https://www.instagram.com/professional_ ... m4eWGH1BG/

You have to hit "play" to watch his video in the above link and be patent, nothing plays for a whole 4 seconds... I sincerely hope that doesn't offend anyone...

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Gromatici » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:45 pm

A common flu kills people every year, but mainly folks with underlying conditions and the very young or old. This virus is NOT the regular flu, and the rate of death is much higher. However, it still only kills MAINLY those who are older, and those with underlying conditions, and still only at a rate that is low (but much higher than the regular flu). So even if you're older, and have an underlying conditions, getting this virus is not a death sentence. In fact, MOST will be fine. The reason they are taking this more seriously is because of these factors:

1. Young people are not as affected, and sometimes show few symptoms, and thus are likely to spread the virus since no one knows they have it.
2. The virus is killing older folks at higher rates (higher that the flu).
3. People who get this virus don't show signs of being sick until 5 days later, which means the flu is spreading quicker than a "normal" flu.
4. The rate of spread is so quick that it has the potential to overwhelm the medical facilities.

If your thinking that this virus is just like the annual flu, you're not understanding that this virus is just beginning it's life cycle. Think about Italy: Would a normal flu overwhelm the medical facilities there??? No. This IS different. I'm 45, and don't have underlying medical conditions, so if I get it, I'll be fine. But if I transmit it to folks who are older, or someone who just had pneumonia..........it could be deadly. Treating it just like a regular flu is not being kind to anyone.

I'm just a surveyor, and you should only take advice from me about land surveying, and maybe on how to make homemade wine. Here are what the experts are saying (and it's not pundits on the news):

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tions.html

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tment.html

https://www.livescience.com/how-deadly- ... id-19.html

What we really want, is to mitigate the spread of the virus, so our medical facilities won't get overwhelmed, and the economy won't crash. Eventually we MAY all get it, but if the spread is slowed down, then our medial professionals will be able to address the needs of the more serious cases, and everyone will eventually get immunity from it, by contracting it, or they will have a vaccine eventually. For this reason, we can't just treat it like a flu, it's not.

I've rented the hotel, paid the fees, and now have to decide if I'm going. I not afraid of getting it, but I'm afraid of spreading it to my fellow surveyors, which i might add, are usually much older than me.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Peter Ehlert » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:53 pm

#FlattenTheCurve now

https://www.flattenthecurve.com/

good info
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Robert Martin » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:15 am

Thank you Eric and Peter for posting that info, that was informative and helpful!

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby SPMPLS » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:30 am

Edward M Reading wrote:No way they hold this.


I expect an announcement by the end of today confirming Ed's prediction.I am not a CLSA member and haven't been for over 30 years, so I have no insider information. Just common sense.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby William Magee » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:17 am

SPMPLS wrote:I am not a CLSA member and haven't been for over 30 years,


I’m very curious why not? You seem almost proud of that fact. I am not condemning your decision by any means. I just want to understand the motivating factor(s). Understanding that may help in rectifying any shortcomings of the organization.
Thanks in advance.
Please don’t sue.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby SPMPLS » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:56 am

I choose to support the profession in my own ways, independent of the association. I have presented at their conference, however, and participated as a presenter on some CLSA webinars. I have my personal reasons for not being a member, which I will keep personal.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby JoshPLS » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:27 am

hellsangle wrote:Marin cancelled their March meeting . . .

Phil


True, but not because of the media hysteria and continued loss of rights/freedoms in the name of "safety". Marin CLSA was cancelled due to the close proximity of the CLSA conference. I am really hoping the CLSA conference will continue as planned.

Scared masses who watch too much CNN and FOX news are much scarier than a highly survivable flu, IMO.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Administrator » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:02 am

APLS-CLSA-NALS Conference Attendees, Exhibitors, & Speakers:

Out of an abundance of caution and in the interest of the health and well-being of all attendees, the APLS-CLSA-NALS Conference Committee has made the difficult decision to reschedule the conference.

We are working with the Luxor Hotel and our other service providers to determine an available date this fall when the COVID-19 outbreak will likely be over. The Conference Committee would like to thank the Luxor Hotel, Alliance Expo, Boulder Creek Golf Course, and Gold Coast Bowling Alley for their flexibility and assistance during this unprecedented situation.

Upon selection of the new date, which we anticipate will occur next week, we will provide additional information. The Conference Committee would like to thank the attendees, speakers, exhibitors, sponsors, and student volunteers for your patience as we work through the logistics of this reschedule.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby sako » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:19 am

good, now what to do with those plane tix?

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Edward M Reading » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:22 am

This was inevitable.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby sako » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:40 pm

I have received an email regarding the conference being rescheduled (August 21-25, 2020). It's being suggested to cancel existing Luxor room reservations and make new reservations later for August. Meanwhile Luxor refunded me only $112 of the total $496. I can't contact luxor for cancellation. I think the reservation ran through a website (book.passkey.com) which is probably associated with the conference. I got a confirmation through that site NOT Luxor, so who should I contact to cancel? ACN in Santa Rosa doesn't answer.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Rob Abrahamian » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:30 pm

The Luxor should have only taken the first night plus tax as a deposit. For my reservations it was $112 as well, that was booking through the link CLSA sent out. The remaining may not have been charged yet as that typically get charged after check in/out. If you went through another site it might be different.

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Edward M Reading » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:29 pm

They will have to reschedule/cancel the August date also.
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Re: Coronavirus

Postby JoshPLS » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:28 am

Edward M Reading wrote:They will have to reschedule/cancel the August date also.


Do you have more intel or is that based on a hunch that this quaratine will end up going out that far?

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Re: Coronavirus

Postby Administrator » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:56 pm

The conference has been rescheduled:
August 21-25, 2020
Luxor Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, NV

Hope to see you all in the Fall. Take care!


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